Raymond Lam: [Interview] AiShiTeRu radio show - 16th August - Pt. 2

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Raymond Lam: [Interview] AiShiTeRu radio show - 16th August - Pt. 2

Host: So completely blocked off… if we were to talk about your past loves they’ll be before the time you entered the entertainment industry.

Fung: Yeah. When I was studying…
Kitty: When you were studying… was your love life exciting back then?
Fung: Not really… only once.
Kitty: HUUUUUHHHHH? One and only one?
Fung: Yeah. A real relationship which lasted for a period of time, yeah really, once.
Host: How long were you together?
Fung: That time….. it was for about 2 to 3 years.
Kitty: How old were you then?
Fung: Actually it started off with me secretly liking her, but actually the first time I tried to chase a girl was a failure.

Kitty: Doesn’t matter! Many people are the same…
Fung: So after that time I don’t have much confidence.
Host: Was that the first/second time?
Fung: I studied in an all boys school, the first time I wanted to chase that girl she was my primary schoolmate. We were in the same primary school.
Host: Which year of primary school?
Fung: Hrm.. no. We were classmates but only developed feelings during high school…
Kitty: then you have feelings for her…
Fung: Yeah. During Form 5 we all went out for a reunion, and all the classmates would meet.
Kitty: That’s understandable since you were in an all boys school for a few years by then…
Host: During Form 4, Form 5 is when you have hair and facial hair that kind of stuff….
Kitty: Also possible that you have some friends who are dating already and you’re not. Boys might be more competitive, “I’m better looking than you, how would I not have a girlfriend too!!” Then you would search through the girls you know…
Fung: Not searching deliberately… because we all went out to meet, going back and visit our primary school teachers…. then we would all go to, back then there was already karaoke. We would sing etc.. after seeing her a few times there were starting to be some sparks… maybe it was only on one side.
Kitty: But this girl, during primary school, was she outstanding? Is she the prefect?
Fung: She was the prefect….
Kitty: Ahhhhh guessed right, BINGO! Why does every guy secretly likes the prefect?
Fung: Yeah, don’t know why.
Kitty: Yeah it’s true.
Host: Want to conquer the woman in power… a little bit of that.
Fung: Not really… usually the prefect is quite a good girl…
Host: And then what happened, you secretly liked her……
Fung: Not sure why, if it’s because I was in a boys school and don’t have much contact with girls, I was really nervous when I see girls. Like sweating in the palm of my hands, don’t know what to say…
Kitty: Did you ask her out alone?
Fung: No, didn’t ask her, too afraid. Just went to all the karaoke or dinner gatherings… and then some of my friends knew about it, so they said I should accompany her home. So when we got to her house, it was a rare opportunity so I just had to take it. I forgot what I said at the time….
Host: Ai ya!!!!
Kitty: Do you know we’re waiting to hear it!!?
Host: That line you don’t remember??!!
Fung: Let me think about it….
Kitty: So roughly, what did you say?
Fung: hrm…. roughly….
Kitty: What was that moment like?
Fung: Said I really like you that sort of thing….
Kitty: Did you hold her hand…?
Fung: Of course not! Never held her hand…
Host: Probably too afraid to…
Fung: Yeah..
Kitty: So you said “I really like you prefect girl.” (laughs)
Fung: Something like that….
Host: Or will you be my girlfriend?
Fung: I won’t be that straightforward, just “I like you…”
Host: “I like you” is not straightforward?
Kitty: Yeah just say you like her and don’t need to be together (boy/girlfriends).
Fung: Didn’t say that we should go out (chinese = pak tor), need to see her reaction first. But….
Kitty: What did she do?
Fung: She indirectly rejected me….
Kitty: What did she say?
Fung: I forgot!!!
Kitty: I’m just scared that you might’ve missed something! Because sometimes when girls say no, it might mean yes.
Fung: Really?
Kitty: Of course!
Host: Kitty knows a lot about these things.
Kitty: Because firstly – did the girl go to an all girls or co-ed high school?
Fung: An all girls high school.
Kitty: Yep, actually your situation and her situation is the same. During Form 1 to Form 3 she wouldn’t have guys chasing her… but the problem is, she probably thinks - why would I accept you straight away? If she accepts you she will be afraid that you might think less of her. (What kind of girl does he think I am?)
Host: Usually they’ll answer those…
Kitty: Confusing answers….
Host: Should study first….
Kitty: Yeah. And confusing like “let me think about it” etc… (Fung laughs) You missed it! Otherwise the prefect and you can have a happy life.
Host: Were you really hurt by it? First time wor…
Fung: Very hurt ga… because at the time I was still a silly kid.
Host: Did you see her again? Go to karaoke?
Fung: No, but later on, actually even now we have old classmates meetings…..
Host: Chance to rekindle….
Fung: No la…. maybe now she already has a boyfriend…..
Kitty: Fight for her lor! You should have confidence….
Host: Why don’t you just ask first?
Kitty: Yeah but he can say something like, “ahh… you have a lot of spare time, don’t you need to spend it with your boyfriend?” And then she’ll say, “I don’t have a boyfriend….”
Fung: Haven’t seen her in many years, don’t know what she looks like now….
Host: Oh now I see. Need to find that out first…
Kitty: Maybe she already lost some of it….

Host: So what about your first relationship?
Fung: That one was my classmate.
Host: In high school?
Fung: No at university… we knew each other before university, in the beginning we talked on the phone, wrote letters to each other. Yep, that’s it.
Host: That’s all he’ saying…
Kitty: Not acceptable ga wor…
Fung: Yeah, like that. I’ve never talked so much about my love life before…
Kitty: We still have over half an hour, what do we do?
Fung: I still have a lot to say.
Host: We haven’t asked the questions which Siu Yan Jeh will ask…
Kitty: OK we’ll let you have a rest first, listen to your song and relax. Later on, we’ll keep digging into your past!
Host: He actually has that shy, embarrassed look! Crazy!
Kitty: Are Fung’s fans worried about him? In our hands, he’ll definitely be finished!

(song break)
Kitty: OK.. back to something precious, the first puppy love.
Host: Need to talk about Fung’s sweet relationship no matter what.
Fung: Yeah.. hrm…
Kitty: How did you chase her? Before you said you knew each other in high school….
Fung: Hrm… how did I chase her… hrm… actually in the beginning we were purely like penpals.
Kitty: Ahh? From penpals?
Fung: Yeah, can say it developed normally, then we would go out and meet….
Kitty: Did you see her photo before meeting her?
Fung: HUH?
Kitty: Like did you ask her to give you her photo…?
Fung: Not “penpals”…
Host: They already know each other!
Kitty: Ahhh!! I thought they only knew each other as penpals!
Host: They wrote to each other! Be smarter! Don’t be too caught up la Kitty! Need to bring you back to reality….
Kitty: ok ok ok… so you finally meet… but haven’t confirmed whether you’re boy/girlfriends…
Host: Not finally meet! They’ve already met!
Kitty: I mean they both want to go out and meet…
Fung: We would go to movies together, have meals…
Host: So just like dating… because you’ve been writing to each other for so long you already know what’s happening.
Kitty: But not asking her whether she’ll be your girlfriend?
Fung: Actually I did, there was a moment where I asked, “Can you be my girlfriend?”
Kitty: hmmm… hmmmmm
Host: Before Fung was saying this while looking directly at Kitty! Kitty would accept immediately! That look she has on her face….!! (all laughs)
Kitty: That saying goes you need to do the hard work… in other occupations there’s this hard work, for me this is already doing the hard work lor!
(Kitty referred to a Chinese saying which I’m not 100% sure on what it actually means!)
Host: She was so involved in it, so natural!
Kitty: If you didn’t say anything, no one will know!!
Host: This scene is so funny! And then what happened….?
Kitty: Just don’t fight with me to say “hmmmm….hmmm” later…
Host: Fung didn’t say it to me!
Kitty: Don’t scare him!
Fung: I forgot where I was up to…
Kitty: “Can you be my girlfriend?” - like that.
Host: (inaudible) see a movie (??)
Fung: No there’s no need…
Kitty: What are you so scared about? You need some training!
Fung: (keeps laughing) my stomach is aching. Then in a shy manner, she said, “hm yes ok”.
Host: That is a very happy moment.
Fung: I was really really really happy. That was my first relationship.
Kitty: But how long did it develop for? It was mysterious… and then finally, you said it.
Fung: For over a year….
Kitty: Wahhh…
Host: This is so sweet, when the tension reaches the highest point and then you succeeded with one sentence.
Fung: Yeah because I was rejected before, I was scared that one sentence will destroy this relationship.
Host: Fung, have you noticed that guys need that confirmation? So you guys met, wrote to each other, meet, have meals and went to the movies, then it gets to that point where you need to confirm. Like if you don’t sign the contract it doesn’t feel like it’s real. But girls might not care about it.
Kitty: No wor! I feel that girls has a greater desire to confirm. Because, like from my friends’ experiences, without the confirmation the guy might just feel you’re a good female friend of his….
Fung: Actually, both guys and girls want to confirm….
Kitty: If you don’t confirm the guy suddenly tells you, “wei, I’m dating so and so.”
Host: But this is such a brave act from Fung because he had failed before. If he bravely said it and then the girl replied, “let’s be friends” and you’ll be finished…
Fung: Then I’ll be really hurt again.
Kitty: But I believe when he said it he’s pretty sure the girl will say yes.
Fung: Actually from observing during our day to day lives, going out to eat…
Kitty: Talking on phone everyday…
Fung: Yeah talking on the phone for hours..
Kitty: Has to be!
Host: Some people will choose not to say this confirmation yet, then when seeing a movie he would suddenly hold her hand, that type….
Kitty: Like the old fashioned way, holding her hand when crossing the road…
Host: Yeah, like that… in this case you’re braver.
Fung: This type is too dramatic I think. Plus at that moment you might not have the courage to do it.
Kitty: Would rather say it…
Fung: I’m not that brave…
Host: Ok she accepts…. and then…? Did you hold her hand?
Kitty: What happened that night?
Host: Hold hands? Not that far ahead yet.
Fung: Hold her hand… then hug her.
Kitty: Did you know how to hug? You haven’t hugged a girl before… you might suffocate her.
Host: How could a guy not know how to hug a girl?
Kitty: Wait… I have something to say…
Fung: It will feel unnatural.
Kitty: Need to say something because I’ve been to Christmas balls, some guys you can feel they don’t know how to hug a girl.
Fung: No, won’t suffocate her, the height is just right….
Host: I didn’t say that line, Fung…
Fung: I’m so sorry! Sorry!
Kitty: I’m not saying anything more. (Fung is still apologising) I was going to talk about my experience in Christmas balls but I won’t say it anymore. (Kitty pretends to be mad, but laughs again.)
Host: Hugging is like an instinct, will know how to.
Kitty: No there’re some like they’ll strangle you, a bear hug…
Fung: No… won’t happen.

to be continued!